Dear ST owners,

"StoneCold" (StoneCold) 05/09/2015 at 15:04 • Filed to: None

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The clutch and close shifting pattern are ridiculous in my opinion. I don’t know why you would put yourself through that.

Signed,

3-speed H pattern owner

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > StoneCold 05/09/2015 at 15:07

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Try driving an Ariel Atom, I went from 1st to 5th thinking I was going from 1st to 3rd. Tightest shift pattern I’ve ever seen.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > StoneCold 05/09/2015 at 15:26

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actually, I don't really like the clutch in the FoST, its one of the reasons I own a FiST. The shifter is sublime on both STs though, one of the best FWD jobs going. Which 3-speed h-pattern vehicle? Is that a mustang I see in your avatar? No dogleg?

TheOnelectronic > StoneCold 05/09/2015 at 15:40

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You want an awful clutch? Drive a 997 Carerra.

It’s like trying to fold cardboard with your left foot.

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > StoneCold 05/09/2015 at 15:51

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The clutch is ridiculous. Total clutch travel is like 6 inches, yet it engages fully about 2cm off the floor. The shifter is great, but a little rubbery during hard shifting (I’m on stock motor mounts). I can live with those issues, but I absolutely despise how heavy the flywheel seems. It takes way too long for revs to fall, especially for 1-2 shifts. It is a daily reminder that I own a gussied up economy car.

That being said, it is a great jack of all trades commuter car, and I love it dearly.

jariten1781 > Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed 05/09/2015 at 16:03

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That’s not the flywheel...that’s part of the ECU programming...it’s apparently some emissions thing, keeps the throttle plate from slamming shut leading to some unburnt fuel. Tuners can take out the rev-hang.

Short-throw Granny Shifter is 2 #blessed 2b stressed > jariten1781 05/09/2015 at 16:13

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I had the suspicion it was something like that. I guess that explains why revs fall so much quicker when you’re off throttle before the shift. Thanks for the clarification.

Biodegradable Wiring Harness > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. 05/09/2015 at 16:42

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Never driven an Atom, but it sounds like you gotta get in the habit of letting the springs center the stick momentarily, then just push straight forward or straight back to grab 3rd or 4th.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Biodegradable Wiring Harness 05/09/2015 at 16:44

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Yeah I normally would but driving an Atom on track with the minimal driving experience I have is pretty frantic. I soon got the hang of it though.

QCGoose > jariten1781 05/09/2015 at 20:30

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On the 1st gen Focus at least, it actually is the extra-heavy flywheel.